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Posted by hstaylor on Apr 28, 2012, 2:33pm
Can anyone help me with where the apostrophe goes in the word ladies (plural) - for example "ladies glasses".
Posted by hubertus on Apr 28, 2012, 4:35pm
If it was a singular lady, the convention would be the lady's glasses.
If the ladies were plural, it would be ladies' glasses.

As you wouldn't be able to distinguish the two in spoken English, I argue that we shouldn't bother to use the apostrophe to distinguish the written forms of the possessive.

But in this respect, I believe I'm in a minority of one: at least on this forum.
Posted by Dave on Apr 29, 2012, 7:53am

Apr 28, 2012, 4:35pm, hubertus wrote:
If it was a singular lady, the convention would be the lady's glasses.
If the ladies were plural, it would be ladies' glasses.


Correct!


Apr 28, 2012, 4:35pm, hubertus wrote:
As you wouldn't be able to distinguish the two in spoken English, I argue that we shouldn't bother to use the apostrophe to distinguish the written forms of the possessive.

But in this respect, I believe I'm in a minority of one: at least on this forum.


Yes, you are!

And just what spelling would you use?

  • ladies
  • ladys
  • ladees
  • ???
Keep in mind that your writing shouldn't have stumbling blocks for your reader.
Posted by hubertus on Apr 29, 2012, 10:39am
Ambiguous post of mine: apologies.
Yes of course you would always be able to distinguish by context in verbal and written forms.

I would end up distinguishing the singular or plural forms of the written words too as i would respect the conventional spelling: ladys and ladies, though not the apostrophisation.

But I admit this is unlikly to supplant the existing convention.
Posted by hubertus on Apr 29, 2012, 10:42am

Apr 28, 2012, 4:35pm, hubertus wrote:
If it was a singular lady, the convention would be the lady's glasses.
.


At the risk of quoting myself, strictly, the subjunctive should be used. Thus my sentence would start:

If it were a singular lady ...
Posted by Dave on Apr 29, 2012, 4:18pm

Apr 29, 2012, 10:42am, hubertus wrote:

Apr 28, 2012, 4:35pm, hubertus wrote:
If it was a singular lady, the convention would be the lady's glasses.
.


At the risk of quoting myself, strictly, the subjunctive should be used. Thus my sentence would start:

If it were a singular lady ...

And the married ones? ;D
Posted by Pete on Apr 30, 2012, 11:07am

Apr 28, 2012, 4:35pm, hubertus wrote:
But in this respect, I believe I'm in a minority of one: at least on this forum.


I'm not sure that you are the only one, hubertus, but I am pretty sure that you are in the minority.


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